I’ve now been on 7.5 for several weeks.
My question is—
Is the night usually the worst time for folks? It is for me.
I eat, not hungry, stomach is upset, but I eat bland food. Gaining weight. My mind just keeps going and going—not pleasant thoughts.
Tinnitus is definitely worse when i'm in bed.
During the day it tends to be GI symptoms which are very, very slowly easing.
IMO, you should try and keep busy and practice mindfulness, it doesn't matter what you observe, a leaf, a tree, a flower, just focus on it and appreciate anything nice you see.
If you have unpleasant thoughts, fine, just acknowledge it and try to move it to one side of your mind and make an effort to think of something else. Just try and be in the moment.
The more you get distracted, the more distant your unpleasant thoughts will become.
If it's at night in bed, read, do a crossword.
If you put your mind to it, i'm sure you could think of something instead of thinking over things you've no control over.
@Katestthelake Jesus wept, 300mg. WTF were your doctors thinking? How have you been tapering, e.g., what % drops and on what kind of schedule? I don't think you should keep dropping given the symptoms you're reporting; just hold at 7.5 for a while (perhaps a good while - yes, I know you've been tapering for five years, but given your starting dose - unless that's a typo and you mean your original dose was 30mg - in fact, even if your starting dose was 30 and not 300 (for reference, I started tapering in April 2023 from a starting dose of 7.5 and I'm still going).
300mg is correct and I don’t know what the doctor was thinking—she wasn’t even my doctor. I was on it for 5 years and only tapering since August. Thank you so much for your comments and we will see how it goes.
Hi Kate, are we talking about Mirtazapine? 300mg of the stuff?
That's like 20x 15mg tablets a day!!! If correct, that is totally crazy, WTF was your quack thinking off.
@Katestthelake I am so sorry - putting you on 300mg was criminal. I hope you have a new doctor by now. How you got down to 7.5, short of a decade or so of tapering, and are still standing and functioning, I don't know. When did you do your last drop? Please, for the love of God, don't even think about dropping again any time soon. Be prepared to hold for 6 months or more. Racing/intrusive thoughts are definitely a Mirt thing.
I echo that. I never had bad thoughts till coming of Mirtz.
But Jesus, some of the thoughts that went through my head, seriously horrible stuff.
All I seemed to do was have conversations with myself in my head because I had no one else to talk to or could understand.
Never had depression till coming off Mirtazapine either, but I spent months devising the best way to untangle my self out my wife and children's lives so when I ended things, it wouldn't impact them.
In my head, they were much better off without me and nothing would change that, it was just a simple fact.
BUT, that was the Mirtz taking, and once it out your brain, those thoughts all go away.
Now I'm back to being the daft dad having a right laugh with my children and things are lot better with my wife too.
Knowing my own story and hearing stories like yours @Katestthelake and @Cosmic1973, I'm more deeply disturbed about how these drugs are being mismanaged with no consequences or efforts to reform/educate medicos every day. These are people's lives, children's lives; they're playing with. So grateful to SA and this site because at least now we're here and don't have to get through this alone, but a moment of silence for all those out there - and those to come - who are alone with it, and may never discover resources like this.
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